Yes, if it's the right assistant and he names his assistant within the net few weeks.
New MC cup captain team USA
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Yes, if it's the right assistant and he names his assistant within the net few weeks.
Narrow-minded me sees this as insulting, that we need to have a Euro coach assigned to us in order to do better against Team Euro.
I love Johann, hate this appointment.
We have 320 million people here, we should be able to work with one of them.
imo, of course. :wink:
best,
briasn kc
I love Johann, hate this appointment.
We have 320 million people here, we should be able to work with one of them.
imo, of course. :wink:
best,
briasn kc
Wait till you see Team "America"
Darren Appleton
Jason Shaw
Thorsten Hohman
SVB
Guest Appearance by Alex P, since he married a American girl.
I think the USA really has a chance this year, all Matchroom had to do was give up on the Americans.
It's one thing to bring in a non-American who was neutral or a minor player in past Mosconi Cups. It's another to bring in a former European captain. This is inappropriate and against the spirit of the competition.
The MC is in desperate straits but there are more effective and more sporting solutions to the problem.
The MC is in desperate straits but there are more effective and more sporting solutions to the problem.
I'm surprised at the choice also. This does happen in other sports all the time though. Here is a very famous case: Bela Karolyi, the head of the Romanian Olympic women's gymnastics team defected to the USA in the 80's, and became the head of the USA Olympic gymnastic's team.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Béla_Károlyi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Béla_Károlyi
Karolyi was living in a dictatorship, sought political asylum in the United States and then became a citizen. The situations are not remotely comparable.
A better example is Jurgen Klinsmann coaching the US soccer team, but again that doesn't compare to the current move in terms of the competition history of the coach in the relevant events.
You are right, the circumstances of why he came to the US to coach were completely different. But, the end result was that a former direct competitor became the coach within a very short while. That is what we have here. I do see your point though, and I'm leaning more towards yours than my original post
Enough of this bullshit, is John Barton playing Scott Lee or what?
Who Knows-
Bottom line is, I want American players to grow their arsenals.
If working with someone other than an American helps them grow, I'm all for it.
Adhering to old standards and former glory hasn't and doesn't work.
Both Johan and his wife Christel, are salt of the earth people, both personally and professionally, their character and standards are beyond reproach.
I would stand with whoever is picked for Captain for Team USA,
but that it has been placed in Johan's hands, European or not, is a good thing/
For the players, this is a good thing.
They will glean something new perhaps.
And from a marketing perspective, it's a ratings bonanza!
We should all take a cue from Jay Helfert and be available to lend a hand.
Y'all can lose your minds if you want to, and give our ego's a hug,
but right now, we should all be happy American players are being invested in in both knowledge and time and
be humble and gracious for the opportunity given to us,
because THIS IS A CHANCE TO GROW!!
Bottom line is, I want American players to grow their arsenals.
If working with someone other than an American helps them grow, I'm all for it.
Adhering to old standards and former glory hasn't and doesn't work.
Both Johan and his wife Christel, are salt of the earth people, both personally and professionally, their character and standards are beyond reproach.
I would stand with whoever is picked for Captain for Team USA,
but that it has been placed in Johan's hands, European or not, is a good thing/
For the players, this is a good thing.
They will glean something new perhaps.
And from a marketing perspective, it's a ratings bonanza!
We should all take a cue from Jay Helfert and be available to lend a hand.
Y'all can lose your minds if you want to, and give our ego's a hug,
but right now, we should all be happy American players are being invested in in both knowledge and time and
be humble and gracious for the opportunity given to us,
because THIS IS A CHANCE TO GROW!!
Tap, tap, tap. I agree with this.
American Olympians have non-American coaches all the time. Look at ice skating. Many ice skating coaches are Russian.
I'm looking forward to seeing how this develops.
Don't worry ... Your new President will fix this as one of his first deeds ...
Remember: "A Dutchman as Mosconi Cup Captain? This is not MY America! I WILL institute an real American patriot! Indeed I will select the only one suitable for this job! MYSERLF!!!"
Anyhow, I think it does not matter who is elected as captain, you need a team of guys with ba||s and a stroke (a bunch of Earls and Hatches on fire would still stand the best chance, at least it would become funny to watch again
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Elsewise pay your young guns the money they need to work out drills 8h a day for a year and head to 9 foot tourneys around the world and it would also become tight very soon ... forbid 7 foot tables
Other chance, invade the Philipines and make them an american colony?
OK, enough silly comments for today ... Just give him a chance, he will certainly do better than Mr Klinsmann on your soccer team! Good luck (though I still will be cheering for our guys)!
Remember: "A Dutchman as Mosconi Cup Captain? This is not MY America! I WILL institute an real American patriot! Indeed I will select the only one suitable for this job! MYSERLF!!!"
Anyhow, I think it does not matter who is elected as captain, you need a team of guys with ba||s and a stroke (a bunch of Earls and Hatches on fire would still stand the best chance, at least it would become funny to watch again
)Elsewise pay your young guns the money they need to work out drills 8h a day for a year and head to 9 foot tourneys around the world and it would also become tight very soon ... forbid 7 foot tables
Other chance, invade the Philipines and make them an american colony?
OK, enough silly comments for today ... Just give him a chance, he will certainly do better than Mr Klinsmann on your soccer team! Good luck (though I still will be cheering for our guys)!
Johann is a very good friend so I am torn with this decision. Unquestionably he is the best man for the job - perhaps the only one. But the question is is this the right job for the man. WHICH JOB?
He needs to be clear what his responsibilities are. Mark Wilson foundered on the back of multi tasking because he had a lot of other logistics to worry about. Season long qualifiers prevented him from identifying the composition of his team until a couple of weeks before the event.
So he had no chance to address the glaring problem of the skill gap between US and European players. HOW WILL THIS BE ANY DIFFERENT FOR jOHANN?
Perhaps the short term solution is to use this years rankings to determine who is eligible to play in 2018. Then he could work on their individual weaknesses.
Then he would need a team for 2017 - Enter Mika Immonen, Thorsten Hohmann. Darren Appleton, Jayson Shaw (all compulsary drafted by Mr Trump because he promised to Make America Winners Again) and SVB.
Because Shane is a folk hero he would remain for 2018 but the other four could test the skills of the NEW IMPROVED 2017 US citizens qualifiers in a playoff.
Once you have bitten the bullet of Internationalism then it becomes clear that if you want to become World Class you have to mix and learn from World Class.
Unless Johann can get to the seat of the problem at an early stage then I fear that his spotless credentials may be sullied
He needs to be clear what his responsibilities are. Mark Wilson foundered on the back of multi tasking because he had a lot of other logistics to worry about. Season long qualifiers prevented him from identifying the composition of his team until a couple of weeks before the event.
So he had no chance to address the glaring problem of the skill gap between US and European players. HOW WILL THIS BE ANY DIFFERENT FOR jOHANN?
Perhaps the short term solution is to use this years rankings to determine who is eligible to play in 2018. Then he could work on their individual weaknesses.
Then he would need a team for 2017 - Enter Mika Immonen, Thorsten Hohmann. Darren Appleton, Jayson Shaw (all compulsary drafted by Mr Trump because he promised to Make America Winners Again) and SVB.
Because Shane is a folk hero he would remain for 2018 but the other four could test the skills of the NEW IMPROVED 2017 US citizens qualifiers in a playoff.
Once you have bitten the bullet of Internationalism then it becomes clear that if you want to become World Class you have to mix and learn from World Class.
Unless Johann can get to the seat of the problem at an early stage then I fear that his spotless credentials may be sullied
Let's not be fooled by the jingoistic tones of many posters on this (and related threads).
US pool needs some European, (particularly UK) influence to give it some backbone.
Johann's appointment is just the tip of an iceberg. Darren, Jayson,Mika, Thorsten are all raising the standard in US tournaments.
Now Darren has shown you how to run a proper professional event with his World Series and The World 8 Ball and World 9 Ball Championships were rooted in Britain.
The World Pool Masters, The World Cup of Pool and The Mosconi Cup are all masterminded from the UK.
Finally Allison, Karen, Kelly, Julie Gerda, Ewa and Jasmin are keeping ladies pool alive.
Oh and I nearly forgot Mark Cantrill is the star of American Billiards Radio and
J P Parmentier is pool's greatest photographer bar none.
Still they keep coming - Mosconi Cup referee, Welshman Nigel Rees and Florida Tour supremo Tony Crosby
WHO IS THE MOST INFLUENTIAL MAN IN POOL? It's a No Brainer - Luke Riches
US pool needs some European, (particularly UK) influence to give it some backbone.
Johann's appointment is just the tip of an iceberg. Darren, Jayson,Mika, Thorsten are all raising the standard in US tournaments.
Now Darren has shown you how to run a proper professional event with his World Series and The World 8 Ball and World 9 Ball Championships were rooted in Britain.
The World Pool Masters, The World Cup of Pool and The Mosconi Cup are all masterminded from the UK.
Finally Allison, Karen, Kelly, Julie Gerda, Ewa and Jasmin are keeping ladies pool alive.
Oh and I nearly forgot Mark Cantrill is the star of American Billiards Radio and
J P Parmentier is pool's greatest photographer bar none.
Still they keep coming - Mosconi Cup referee, Welshman Nigel Rees and Florida Tour supremo Tony Crosby
WHO IS THE MOST INFLUENTIAL MAN IN POOL? It's a No Brainer - Luke Riches
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The Mosconi Cup is the Europeans vs. the Americans. Appointing a European to be the captain of the American team is in direct conflict with the theme of the contest and is wrong. Matchroom has gone too far this time. What's next? Inserting a European player on to the American team?
The Americans should take this as a wake-up call and get their act together and they should outright reject a European as their team captain.
The Americans should take this as a wake-up call and get their act together and they should outright reject a European as their team captain.
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Without a real ''act'' our players will keep on keeping on, as cats don't stick together, unle$$ it's too their benefit. There lifestyle their attitudes and their actions speak loudly, as does having no pro tour and light at the end of the tunnel. Been going on since the 80's.
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i believe you owe me $1.00 from 2013, Doug.
i have ZERO doubts about Johann whipping them into shape, Euro-style....
I agree with you 100%. Johnnyt
why - so that they, we, & you can continue to lose face & $$$$$? Johann knows the strengths & weaknesses of the opponents, & he has been hired to win. if he can't jerk-a-knot in the USA's asses - no one can.